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Finally: The Polo Shirt
Posted August 15, 2006

"Several APWU members made fashion statements at the Clerk Craft Conference, modeling new polo shirts that window clerks will be able to wear starting on Nov. 18.

The long- and short-sleeved shirts have been the subject of long and short discussions, tests, and reviews since 2003. Vendors will begin taking orders on these shirts early in October. One of the last issues to be resolved grants retail clerks the right to wear this style any day of the week that the window is open.

They can be purchased using the Sales and Service Associate uniform allowance. The cost is expected to be in the $30-$35 range." (Source: APWU)

Employee Comments About Postal Uniforms
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"SUN PROTECTION. I would like to see the uniforms have sun protection, and be rated with a sun protection factor. I have gotten a sunburn through the regular shirt. If I wear an undershirt in very hot weather it gets soggy and interferes with cooling which is dangerous.  You can get this with civilian clothes right now."
- Anonymous  
"I'd love to see the carriers get a windbreaker type of pant to wear. My ignorant postmaster has instructed us that WE CANNOT wear our rain pants unless it is raining??!!  Hey idiot, it's frigin 30 degrees out with a wind chill and you want me to wear pants? And then they tell us to be safe and not to abuse our sick leave? Uniforms need a drastic research to allow us to wear what we need to keep us safe and comfortable!!!!!!!!!"
- Anonymous
"I'd like to see the Postal Service offer a better selection of uniform hats. There are plenty of nice ball caps that cover the uniform criteria with the "UGLY" eagle and "UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE" patch but they have to be purchased with our own funds. Let's move into the 21st century already."
- Anonymous
"The new postal clerk polos are disgusting. The proposed shirt was solid burgundy in color. Probably not everyone's favorite color but at least it would look neat and not look filthy after one wearing. But when the actual shirts are offered they are light blue with navy blue cuffs and collars. Ugly! You can't find a shirt like this in any catalogue for the general public because no one would buy it. Why light blue? Did the people who designed this ever walk into a post office? Clerks sort newspapers and parcels as well as work the window. Even if you are only working the window, you have to lift parcels and do other functions. These shirts will never stay clean and I'm sure that the stains won't come out during the wash because the carrier polo shirts are the same color and they look filthy all the time. So what really happened here? And where was our union during this negotiation? All that hogwash about union pride and they don't care that we stand before the public looking dorky and dirty."
- CT Postal Clerk 26 years
"The clerk window shirts look like pajama tops or shirts issued to incarcerated prisoners. Window clerks look ridiculous. I served on a panel which made suggestions to improve the marketing posters used to sell postal services. Our suggestions were implemented resulting in those very effective posters. I do not understand why the Postal Service boosts about the "Voice of the Employee" when it will not solicit input from the employees on the front line. I am told the Postal Service requires that I look professional, on the window, while my manager dresses as though he just walked off the golf course. If the Postal Service has funds to invest in marketing research to improve sales, why will it not invest funds to determine what will make clerks more comfortable with clothes we can wear with pride. The way the Post Office is evolving, I do not doubt window clerks will be required to wear funny hats and sell breakfast tacos at the window very soon."
- Logo in Lago
"The Postal Service should offer a new selection of letter carrier shorts, one with cargo pockets comes to mind. It would be great for holding misc. items such as 3849s, notepads, pens and even a scanner. The fit would be loose enough to let air in and moisture out. Not to mention the comfort factor. It's time for a uniform reform."
- Anonymous
"Been doing this for 35 years. These are the worst uniforms ever. Since we HAVE to offer other items in our sales pitch, I ask if they want to "biggie size" a book of stamps to a coil. It only feels right wearing a fast food outfit. I'll never wear the gray pleated rags.  I'm wearing thin on these old blue pants. If they tear through I'll spend my own money at Wal-Mart and buy some cheap blue throwaway stuff first. Sorry, but try putting a crappy tie around your neck and choking it tightly around your neck in the heat of summer, while doing dispatch. Then while dripping like a pig, back at the counter, happily ask for the next moron in line. I wish I had the names of the idiots who thought up these uniforms. The old shirts had some tapering to them... these shirts were cut to be used as parachutes in a pinch. Notice all the nice Post Office polo style shirts we can purchase from Land's End and other places with our own funds, but still can't wear on the window --- like "management" does? Maybe I'll just not wash the shirts anymore... tell them my wife will only wash polo shirts. Don't like it, change the uniform."
- Anonymous
"Whoever designed our window clerk uniforms is probably still laughing!"
- Anonymous
"I've been a letter carrier for the past 2 1/2 years and have refused to purchase and wear the regulated postal shoes because every single one is made of leather! It is against my religious and moral principles to wear leather so I have to buy my own shoes and hope nobody in management tries to use that "against me". I truly think the postal service should include non leather shoes as an alternative. Until they do, no green tabs on my shoes!"
- Jade
"The shirts for window clerks should go to a polo style shirt! So many window clerks also do distribution as well. We handle boxes that are dirty and get ink from our date stamps on our shirts. It is very difficult to keep these shirts looking nice. We need shirts that stretch a little and I think they still look professional. So many other businesses have these shirts! Let's catch up!"
- Iowa Window Clerk
"I have been waiting for the new clerk polo shirts like everyone else. Has anyone tried to keep the neck scarf from looking like a wet rag around your neck? And the eagle button turns upside down. My supervisor yells when I wear the men's tie, so that leaves nothing else. Can we get on with the polo shirts please? It's so amazing we are constantly told to get 100% & look alive and professional, yet they can't give a little. Can't figure it out. By the way... the polyester pants stink too!"
- Uncomfortable on Long Island
"I've been a letter carrier for 17 years and would like to see some changes in the uniform.  First of all - the men's pants and shorts are always being advertised with  "flex" in the waistband... gives up to 3 inches. Why not in the lady's culottes and pants? Also - sleeveless shirts should be available for wear in hot climates. Cotton would be a preferable material for uniforms - NOT polyester.  The choice and comfort of shoes is pretty bad.  They are so overpriced and we are caught in a place where we HAVE to spend outrageous amounts of money for shoes that do not last and are uncomfortable (just to have the little black and green tag on them). I think that the people deciding the uniforms should have to wear them for a month straight - out in the heat -  and see how they change after that."
- Patti, Florida
"I always feel like I'm in my father's pajamas."
- Anonymous
To the makers/designers of the letter carrier shirts... Why not a dark blue shirt, whether it is a pullover, shirt jac, whatever. Dark blue would match the stripe on the side of the carrier's pants/shorts and the dark blue color would show less dirt/stains!
- J.P.
"Does anyone know if any uniform vendor sells postal insulated coveralls?  If not, it would be a good idea.  Make it a little easier to stay warm without carrying around additional clothes."
- G.M.
"How about long sleeves for the shirt jacs? Our manager doesn't allow us to wear a thermal shirt under our shirts."
- Sue, Carrier CA

"I too would like to see the uniforms modernized. All of the comments about the window clerk uniforms are true! The shirts don't breathe, they are cut wrong for women, not to mention the new sweater is an accident waiting to happen. With all the sharp edges in our office, a new sweater doesn't stay looking new very long. What happened to the jumper for women? I've been looking for one because it would be more comfortable sometimes than slacks. I won't even purchase the slacks in that nasty polyester, there are SO MANY new fabric technologies out there that come out of the dryer looking like they were dry cleaned, why can't we have some cotton blend slacks, skorts and jumpers?"
- SSA clerk in NC

"Our uniforms are not the only thing that is awful. I don't know about anyone else but the shoes are a major problem. I have been a carrier in Kentucky for 10 years. I would think that a company somewhere could make a pair of shoes that fit, held up to the punishment we go through everyday and you could afford. I have to buy new shoes every 3 mo. Allowances don't go that far. I have tried uniform stores and they are never consistent with size and price. I can be reached at debi67@vci.net" - Thanks, Debi 
"When I became a PTF clerk in 1996, we wore street clothes all of the time. No one seemed to care what we looked like on the window. Now since the onset of the mystery shopper, it has become imperative that we always be in uniform when we are on the window. That would be fine except I am not in receipt of a uniform allowance. Our management decided to buy some shirts and ties and left the rest up to the PTF's to provide. Is it me or is something amiss here? I am paying good money out of my pocket to pay for a uniform that is required by management. When I complained to the local union steward, he wasn't really concerned. However, if you take all of the PTF's across the country all springing for these uniforms, it becomes quite a piece of change. When is the APWU going to stand up for its members and put a stop to this practice? I'll be more than happy to wear a uniform provided I'm not using my money to buy it. This could be remedied by providing all of us with a uniform allowance, and management will not do it."
- PTF Clerk
"I agree!  Our uniforms are awful!  We need something new.  How about some fun ties like the Disney ones that used to be permitted?  How about some professional looking shorts?  Of course, we'll look goofy in shorts with a tie, so where are those polos we were promised?  And another thing......we need an outlet where we can sell old uniforms.  There are many reasons why we may have some to get rid of......promotion, demotion, change of craft, change of weight, etc etc.  And those suckers are expensive!  Our yearly allotment doesn't even come close to buying a year's worth of clothing.  I tried listing some on eBay, but nothing that can facilitate the impersonation of a postal employee can be sold on there.  If there are any large size ladies out there who need window clerk shirts, email me!!  I'll sell you mine.....CHEAP."  - Paula  postalpaula@yahoo.com
"Can't you change the regular shorts to cargo/carrier shorts like the ones young men are wearing?"
- Sasha N.
"Why are the vendors in the Postal Uniform program not required to ship their Internet orders by USPS? It should be written into their contracts. It makes no sense for postal vendors selling postal clothing to postal employees to be shipping by any other carrier!"
- Jeff T., Saint Paul
"Please, if anyone can help me find a postal vendor who sells "cotton" postal pants. I am allergic to polyester and besides, this material is dangerous as it doesn't breathe and will melt into your skin if ignited. If I must, I will make my own pants out of cotton and sew a stripe on the sides. But it seems I shouldn't have to. This lack of material choice is ridiculous. I am at TRASKIES@optonline.net if anyone can help." - Thanks, Bob 
"I have been a window/distribution clerk a/k/a sales associate for 9 years. I hate the new uniform shirt. It has no style to it and the color is awful. I miss my nice, clean, crisp white shirt. I always felt very professional and proud to wear that uniform. I also don't like the fact that grey, black or navy pants are acceptable. I am all for relaxation in the workplace, but not to the point where we start to lose our professionalism. You are what you dress. I believe we should go back to the white shirts, navy pants and everyone look the same. It gave me a feeling of pride and no one ever questioned, "do you work for the railroad or McDonalds? GIVE ME BACK THE RED, WHITE & BLUE."
- Marie Trovitch, NY
"Here is a web site I would like your help with: http://www.z-coil.com

I bought a pair but they have cloth in them so they aren't legal footwear for the post office anyway but management is saying that they are unsafe - no ifs, ands, or buts.

I know that with these shoes available across America and with 800,000 postal employees someone has to be wearing these shoes at work. I was wondering if any of my fellow postal workers are wearing these and if they are where they are located and what they did to have them approved. I am going to challenge this all the way."
- Karen Stanford, karenstanford1@comcast.net
"I too am a Sales and Service Associate (window clerk) of 18 yrs. I do not like the uniforms. Thank goodness I discovered that I didn't have to tuck in the shirt. And to the lady inquiring about maternity, they do make a maternity shirt. Just have to check around to the different vendors who are licensed to sell. My office has a list that was sent out with the vendor's names. I think that whoever came up with this type of uniform shirt is not a window clerk themselves. I too come from a small office and start my day by sorting and then boxing mail and then to the window. It is a hot shirt and pulls under the arms and is not cut for full figured women in mind. That feels better. Just sharing these thoughts with others on a national level feels great. Do you think anyone will ever listen to us?"
- Mona Franzen, MS 
"Does any vendor make window clerk uniforms - at least just the shirt available in petite sizes for women? I have to buy slacks on my own since the size, style, and material are NOT suitable for my height and weight. Are the sweaters and vests available in petite sizes?"
- Thanks, Sally sally@velocity.net
"Hello, my name is Patty I have worked for the USPS for 17 years and now I am having trouble buying a skirt to deliver mail in. I prefer not to wear pants and I can't find anyone that makes them. Help anyone?"
 - Thanks, Patty  jpcopley@bellsouth.net 
"I wish they would include a pocket on the leg of the pants/shorts for our scanners. FedEx has one, along with a much more modern and colorful uniform. Also, why not make our pants/shorts like baseball uniforms, with a little stretch in the fabric. I've worked there 33 years and have yet to find a comfortable uniform that fits."
- Patty
"Yuck.  I need to order a new Window Clerk vest and I'm not impressed.  I am a PTF who doesn't get an allowance for my uniform so I order rarely.  I have a hole in my vest (v neck style no buttons) and wanted another one like it but I guess they are extinct.  I even looked on eBay.  I am desperate for a vest so I guess I'll have to order the new "old grandpa" vest.  It is totally wrong for a woman.  What were they thinking?  The only good thing about our uniform is the button cover!"
 - Thanks, Shelley
"I think the uniform colors are very dull looking.  Everyone looks so dull and bored. Can't we have more uplifting colors (bright colors) instead of navy, light blue, and ugly gray color pants?"
- Anonymous  
"We need the polo shirts for work because it gets hot in our post office in the summer and the carriers have one and it looks great. The second beef is who keeps changing the uniforms?
 
The old blue pants were much more comfortable and wore a lot better. The shirts with ties just make us look hopeless and the sweaters are almost useless with that plunging neckline. We wear our vest and sweater for a much better look as well as staying warm during the winter with the penny pinchers energy saving. Lastly the latest sweater is a joke and it is time for some definite feedback directly to management about the logo sweaters."
- Anonymous  
"When are the polo shirts for window clerks going to be available? It would be more appropriate in today's world!"
- 22960
 
"What happened to the polo shirts that were approved for window clerks? They were supposed to be offered this summer but I have seen nothing about them since we first saw the new uniform displayed last year. Was this just a joke from upper management? The new uniform shirts and slacks that are supposed to be more comfortable are far from that - no different from the old ones. Other businesses let their employees wear the polo shirts and it looks very professional and neat. Much better than what we are forced to wear!"
- Tired PM
"I am a carrier in hot southern California. I have spoken to a lot of our
carriers and we would like to have sleeveless shirts."
- Sandra
 
"Hi I am a Sales Service Associate a.k.a (CLERK). I would really like to meet the crew that came up with the design for these gray pants. The color is ugly but it can be dealt with. However, these pleats really need to go because they are not for everybody. For small people they are OK, but for a lot of people like me who are a little round in the middle these pants are really an insult to our size. We need pants that don't have pleats like the old ones that we had."
- Anonymous
 
"Lady Letter Carrier Wear: A couple of ideas... Are there any plans for skorts for us? Also, I occasionally wear a red micro-fleece vest under my jacket. I have had many comments on this from fellow lady carriers who would love to have such an item to brighten their uniform choices. This also seems to make sense from a visibility/safety angle."
- Thanks, Lisa 
"The new gray clerk pants that were recently introduced are in need of a different material. My wife has to press my pants, as they aren't wash and wear like the blue pants are. Is anyone out there having the same problem I am?  After a few hours on the job, the pants look like I have slept in them. I know the uniform allowance paid for them but I still feel ripped off."
- Anonymous
 
"The clerks at my office consider our uniforms to look like gas station
attendants. Our clerks do all functions of clerk activity - not just working at the window. It is really frustrating to spend your morning running CSBCS machines, throwing parcels, unloading trucks, etc, and then be expected to put on a tie and look pro when it's time to go to the window. These uniforms are not practical or comfortable. Somebody needs to take a look at what we need to have to present a good professional image."
- Anonymous
 
"Hi. I am a window clerk in Reno. I would like to see window clerks be able to wear slack-like shorts and polo shirts. I think it would look better and nicer. The uniform we are wearing right now reminds me of the people working at McDonalds. I work at a station where a lot of college students and professors come in every day, and it only seems right if we are able to wear clothes that make our customers feel more comfortable with us."
- Thanks
"I would like to suggest maternity shirts for clerks to go with the maternity pants & skirts already offered. I can find generic gray or blue pants. Wouldn't it have been more logical to offer the shirts first?  I've seen them in the preview catalog. I've been told that I shouldn't have to wear the uniform shirt since it's not offered in the maternity style, but my co-workers shouldn't have to deal with lower mystery-shopper scores just because I'm pregnant."
- Anonymous
 
"I want to suggest a new hat like a cowboy hat with the eagle on the front. This way our ears and face would stay out of the sun."
- Thanks, 25 years  
"Hello, my name is Michael Klabisch and I am a letter carrier in Round Lake, IL, a northern suburb of Chicago. I have been talking with my fellow workers these past few days about returning the American Flag to our uniforms. Everyone wants to show their support of this great nation! What can I do about bringing the flag back to our uniform?"
- Michael Klabisch  
"Hi folks, My supply of Five Star brand light blue uniform work shirts has given out and I would like to find out where to buy more but the Thomas Registry of Manufacturers doesn't have this brand name for shirts. Does anyone know the company and how to contact? Many thanks,"
- JBP jbpatter@uag.com 
"My husband is a letter carrier for an office in the Chicago suburbs. In the winter it gets really cold and sometimes wet and cold. When he trudges through knee deep snow his postal pants get soaking wet. I would like to see some winter pants designed for carriers who walk through snow all day. Something that uses the latest technology similar to what skiers and mountain climbers use. Something light weight that stays warm and doesn't absorb water. There are a lot of fabrics that are breathable, warm and lightweight that outdoor enthusiasts have been using for years. Why isn't the postal service using these same fabrics in their uniform clothing? It seems like this would make for a happier and more comfortable work force."
- Jennifer Kewith
 
"I would like to see dark blue shirts for letter carriers.  My light blue shirts get trashed pretty quickly, and they look bad long before my yearly allotment rolls around so that I can order new ones.

One more idea!  I would like letter carriers to have a more protective hat to wear.  I've already had skin cancer from too much sun exposure.  A hat with a broader brim would supply more protection.  And besides, let's face it, the current letter carrier helmets look very stupid."
- Doug  

"Dear Fellow Postal Workers:
Are there any window clerks out there who would like to see shorts made available for male window clerks, now that skorts are available for females?  Skorts are really nothing more than shorts in disguise.  I certainly have nothing against females being given the opportunity to wear skorts, I just think it is unfair to males that we have not been given a similar uniform option. If anyone agrees, please contact me."
- Thanks, Robert Woods
woodsong@turbonet.com   
"Who do I contact to make suggestions about new letter carrier uniform items?  I would like a winter watch cap without a built in face mask (have never used and find irritating) and I would like postal pants with zip off legs (they could be converted to shorts in the spring or fall depending on the weather). Also, I'd like to see "Polar Tech" incorporated into future jackets."
- Respectfully, Tony Donohue     
"WHY DO THE LETTER CARRIER PANTS HAVE TO BE MADE OUT OF MATERIAL THAT ITCHES AND IT DOEN'T BREATH? WHY CAN'T THERE BE PANTS FOR SUMMER MADE OUT OF COTTON SO THE MATERIAL CAN BREATH? ALSO WHY CANT WE HAVE A SPRING JACKET THAT ISN'T SO SHORT. NOT ALL THE LADY LETTER CARRIERS ARE A SIZE 5. SOME OF US LARGER WOMEN LIKE A JACKET THAT IS LONGER AND COVERS SOME OF THE REAR END." - AR

 

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